tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21544361.post4688889430080387565..comments2009-10-17T16:47:20.186+01:00Five Chinese Crackershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09395982651352498540noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21544361.post-53102425861949719642009-09-08T23:59:48.615+01:002009-09-08T23:59:48.615+01:00Yeah as MacGuffin points out, the Mail doesn&#39;t differentiate between &quot;accused&quot; and &quot;convicted&quot; and so doesn&#39;t believe in innocent until proven guilty.<br><br>Although you&#39;ve overwhelmingly debunked the Mail&#39;s figures, let&#39;s assume they&#39;re correct for a sec. I&#39;m not sure I can think of a good reason why a particular group of society, that the nation&#39;s most popular rags regularly denigrate, would be disproportionately accused of murder, can you?<br><br>These types of tabloid stories are essentially self-enforcing myths, no? People read how terrible immigrants are, and therefore get more suspicious around them, thus giving the tabloids more &quot;reason&quot; to tell them how terrible they are.Oriel boyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10485043967856675028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21544361.post-9979475133970657212009-09-01T14:12:04.056+01:002009-09-01T14:12:04.056+01:00@MacGuffin:<br><br>When I did an FOI of my own to reproduce some Mail stats last year, there was no distinction between the two. I think the CPS would be the people to ask nationality of those convicted, but I&#39;m not sure.<br><br>If the Mail have used the word &#39;convicted&#39; anywhere, it&#39;s probably wrong. <br><br>@Akela - It was indeed Slack who did this before. Must be reliable then.<br><br>Incidentally, Slack doesn&#39;t have his prints over any of the immigration scaremongering this summer. Could be because he&#39;s been kept away because of his ineptitude - or he could just be on holiday and we&#39;ll get a deluge of scaremongering cobblers when he gets back.<br><br>Nice.Five Chinese Crackershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09395982651352498540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21544361.post-60773576650478465012009-09-01T12:00:57.657+01:002009-09-01T12:00:57.657+01:00Ah so it was Mr Slack that this was lifted from. When I read the story I was convinced that I&#39;d read the same old load of toss somewhere before but couldn&#39;t put my finger on where.<br><br>Lies, dam lies and statistics and all that.Akelahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11831868310005824686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21544361.post-87964758689941664802009-09-01T11:46:51.363+01:002009-09-01T11:46:51.363+01:00It is up on the BNP site now...<br><br>Do the Police figures differentiate between &#39;accused of&#39; and &#39;convicted&#39;? The Mail doesn&#39;t, and includes both as if they&#39;re one and the same...MacGuffinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01068286622218492768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21544361.post-38766083193270687532009-08-31T19:57:52.074+01:002009-08-31T19:57:52.074+01:00Which comment was yours?!Five Chinese Crackershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09395982651352498540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21544361.post-23075783568519292482009-08-31T19:45:28.468+01:002009-08-31T19:45:28.468+01:00I actually managed to get a comment published on the Mail website on this.allnottinghambasearebelongtoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03710776765139258627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21544361.post-24602067918117129902009-08-31T14:23:40.985+01:002009-08-31T14:23:40.985+01:00Excellent stuff, as always. I really couldn&#39;t face taking this one apart so glad you already had! Have added a link from my blog.<br><br>One question though - what is meant by their phrase &#39;illegal killing&#39;?MacGuffinhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01068286622218492768noreply@blogger.com